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[vegad]

Dear Members, please read at ease.

Obstacles to union and factions among practicing engineers

Need for Union:


Like all other professions in which citizens contribute their labor in an economy, consulting civil engineer is no different. Whether it�s a design for structure, road, water supply and sanitation facility, networks and technical due diligence for large infrastructure projects, our services strive to deliver efficiency, safety, integrity under real time resource constraints for a built environment.

The very existence of professional institutions in a democratic setup is very helpful in some ways, but becomes ineffective when it has to bring new reforms and get it approved through a legislation.

In such a scenario, we need to exercise some stimulating techniques to get the message of reforms across the society at delivery level.

It�s not a good idea to wait for Engineers Bill and revision of acts of allied industries, we should keep trying for that too, but not just that. We need to bypass such obstacles, if we really need to implement BIS and still survive as a profession to benefit the society.

There are ways to convince buyers of services to pay reasonable fees for adequate quality;

A) The development control approval office be strict enough for not just stability certificate, but also many other certificates required in engineering sense viz.(design reports, supervision evidences, BIS compliant procurement evidences, test certificates, and alike.). If such submissions become mandatory, buyers will not underestimate the work and pay less.

B) The union of practicing engineers convinces the buyers directly by exhibiting the importance of the consulting service by any means linked to delivery of product and services. How do we do that? By stopping the services and calling the buyers for workshops during our nationwide strike.

Option A, is a distant possibility, this has been proved by history till yesterday. Option B, can be expected to create some change, some news, some effect on psyche of the buyer of the services and also the end consumer.

Like barbers union, there is need to create rate cards. We need to have meetings and active institution to pinpoint, chase one on one every registered practicing engineer to know what deliverable he aims to deliver, his/her team, clients, reasons of violating ethics of the union and communication with respective approval offices in case of help required on either sides.

Factions:

We are a nation of factions, united by external causes but thankfully our own initiatives. Except governing effectively, governments have been busy in politics, controlling sensitivities of factions by providing freebies, producing soaps, and many other things but governing effectively by policies. Off late we see many changes, which is good sign, but government refining the reforms up to implementation level will take a lot of time.

We have sub-factions among practicing engineers under different commercial models �
1) Proprietors,
2) Private limited firms,
3) Independent consultants, and
4)使用(在公共和私人sectors), Academicians, Contractors (of varying capacities) and Researchers. Each one has varying customers from students, local developers, and public offices to international clients in different sectors.

By and large, customers like public offices and international clients are out of current discussions as they are qualified customers, but others are not.

To get the message to identify the value and pay reasonable fees to 1 to 3, all factions have to come together to assemble the raw materials for quality development (engineering knowhow, construction resources and BIS standards).

For this we need marketing effort to tap every engineer and include one for strikes mentioned in point B.

Do let me know your opinions so that I can take this further to civil engineering professional institutions.

A plan for B is already under drafting.

It may or may not work, but it�s worth a try for the benefit of the society living in private built environments.

Thank you.

[vegad]

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Thank you.

[rahul.leslie]

I�ve been much impressed by the way the points have been laid out. But the whole thing seems to have boiled down to the two options noted:

[vegad]

Dear Eng. Rahul,

Thank you for thinking through. I agree that option A is a way civilized option and B only has power to market the problems.

But even a fruit fork has two tines, so B may help push A, which has relevant potency.

Thank you for your thought and your vote.

God bless your courage to think for the society.